<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Fox &#038; News Corp buying risk</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.thatedeguy.com/archives/2006/04/fox-news-corp-buying-risk/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.thatedeguy.com/archives/2006/04/fox-news-corp-buying-risk</link>
	<description>My commentary on Tech News, Starting a business, Ebay, and Everyday Life</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Brady</title>
		<link>http://www.thatedeguy.com/archives/2006/04/fox-news-corp-buying-risk/comment-page-1#comment-589</link>
		<dc:creator>Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thatedeguy.com/archives/2006/04/fox-news-corp-buying-risk#comment-589</guid>
		<description>Well, in that case quit calling for the end of the tech bubble and help me startup a social bookmarking site quick! :) No really.... I'm not only somewhat kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in that case quit calling for the end of the tech bubble and help me startup a social bookmarking site quick! <img src='http://www.thatedeguy.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> No really&#8230;. I&#8217;m not only somewhat kidding.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Thatedeguy</title>
		<link>http://www.thatedeguy.com/archives/2006/04/fox-news-corp-buying-risk/comment-page-1#comment-588</link>
		<dc:creator>Thatedeguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thatedeguy.com/archives/2006/04/fox-news-corp-buying-risk#comment-588</guid>
		<description>It may be true that last time, it was more the backlash and some of the companies that had investors were silly.  But take a few minutes and go over to techcrunch.com and see how many calendar, photo, social bookmarking and such sites there are now.  

I also don't disagree that the investing is in more sound business ideas this time around, however I still feel that the amount of money is too much.  While I'm sure that a company like SimplyHired uses quite a bit of bandwidth and server time, somehow, I just don't see where a 13.5 million investment is warranted.  Maybe as a purchase price, but all they did was invest and get a percentage of the company.  

Mostly, I just think that the valuations are getting more and more bloated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be true that last time, it was more the backlash and some of the companies that had investors were silly.  But take a few minutes and go over to techcrunch.com and see how many calendar, photo, social bookmarking and such sites there are now.  </p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t disagree that the investing is in more sound business ideas this time around, however I still feel that the amount of money is too much.  While I&#8217;m sure that a company like SimplyHired uses quite a bit of bandwidth and server time, somehow, I just don&#8217;t see where a 13.5 million investment is warranted.  Maybe as a purchase price, but all they did was invest and get a percentage of the company.  </p>
<p>Mostly, I just think that the valuations are getting more and more bloated.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brady</title>
		<link>http://www.thatedeguy.com/archives/2006/04/fox-news-corp-buying-risk/comment-page-1#comment-587</link>
		<dc:creator>Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thatedeguy.com/archives/2006/04/fox-news-corp-buying-risk#comment-587</guid>
		<description>But wouldn't you agree that much of the last bubble turned out to be a joke? I mean most of the companies that were worth their salt just got hurt by the "so called" bubble popping and the resulting backlash which probably killed more good business' then fake ones which would have died off of their own accord or lack of funding when they didn't turn profits.

This time around I'm just not seeing the crazy business ideas I did before. Like I remember about 20,000 attempts at social networking sites and business planning and online calendar applications, not to mention loads of free web email services popping up with their own gimmicks. What I'm seeing this time is people investing in ideas and business' that are already established and have a community but just haven't yet been monetized to any degree. Look at flickr for instance, its a great service with a wide following and ease of use but it has pretty much no ads and has yet to make a countable dime on selling hard prints of pictures people submit. Yahoo bought them to add to their portfolio of user services in what I think was an intellgent move. It adds to their overall value and encourages people to use their other web properties (or it will once you link them all together). I disagree with Dvorak when he says flickr is a losing proposition. Perhaps on its own it might be but as a service part of Yahoo its real value is not so much in the incoming stream directly from it but the residual users and base that it brings with it. Yahoo is buying users essentially. 

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the main difference I see this time vs the dotcom bubble is that investors are throwing money at real established ideas that have been proven to work. This might be a bubble but it certainly has a lot less fluff than the last one if it is. God only knows during the last one we could have thrown these comments in a business plan and said we wanted to start a site that involved us commenting back and forth and we would have gotten at least 2mill for writing a business plan that had punctuation and correct grammar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But wouldn&#8217;t you agree that much of the last bubble turned out to be a joke? I mean most of the companies that were worth their salt just got hurt by the &#8220;so called&#8221; bubble popping and the resulting backlash which probably killed more good business&#8217; then fake ones which would have died off of their own accord or lack of funding when they didn&#8217;t turn profits.</p>
<p>This time around I&#8217;m just not seeing the crazy business ideas I did before. Like I remember about 20,000 attempts at social networking sites and business planning and online calendar applications, not to mention loads of free web email services popping up with their own gimmicks. What I&#8217;m seeing this time is people investing in ideas and business&#8217; that are already established and have a community but just haven&#8217;t yet been monetized to any degree. Look at flickr for instance, its a great service with a wide following and ease of use but it has pretty much no ads and has yet to make a countable dime on selling hard prints of pictures people submit. Yahoo bought them to add to their portfolio of user services in what I think was an intellgent move. It adds to their overall value and encourages people to use their other web properties (or it will once you link them all together). I disagree with Dvorak when he says flickr is a losing proposition. Perhaps on its own it might be but as a service part of Yahoo its real value is not so much in the incoming stream directly from it but the residual users and base that it brings with it. Yahoo is buying users essentially. </p>
<p>I guess what I&#8217;m trying to say is that the main difference I see this time vs the dotcom bubble is that investors are throwing money at real established ideas that have been proven to work. This might be a bubble but it certainly has a lot less fluff than the last one if it is. God only knows during the last one we could have thrown these comments in a business plan and said we wanted to start a site that involved us commenting back and forth and we would have gotten at least 2mill for writing a business plan that had punctuation and correct grammar.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Thatedeguy</title>
		<link>http://www.thatedeguy.com/archives/2006/04/fox-news-corp-buying-risk/comment-page-1#comment-586</link>
		<dc:creator>Thatedeguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thatedeguy.com/archives/2006/04/fox-news-corp-buying-risk#comment-586</guid>
		<description>Brady,

I believe that given the recent deal, thats about the 2nd richest horse's mouth to grace my comments, next to dave sifry that is.  I'm glad to see it really, as it means that some of us little people get noticed once in a while.  

As for your question, I am definetely seeing some trends that would indicate that there is a bubble forming and it may indeed be ready to pop again.  It is in no way similar to the previous bubble at the beginning of the century however.  The dynamics of the Web 2.0 sites that we are seeing are making it much easier to create a valuable service site.  For instance, we are seeing quite a few new sites that "mimic" other sites.  How many digg clones have you seen?  And isn't Digg really just an improved(depending on your POV) version of slashdot?  I believe the investors were more cautious at the beginning, but the increased investing and funding recenly are what gives me reason to pause here.  As with any group of business, people, etc... the cream of the crop rises to the top and even if we do see another bubble pop, several of those sites will survive.  Blogging for instance will survive, as will sites like digg, delicious, and maybe even simplyhired.  

Obviously, I agree that diversification is an excellent reason for some of these purchases as the more diverse your portfolio, the less risk is actually felt.  Of course, ask some of the original dotcom bust investors how their diversification efforts worked. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brady,</p>
<p>I believe that given the recent deal, thats about the 2nd richest horse&#8217;s mouth to grace my comments, next to dave sifry that is.  I&#8217;m glad to see it really, as it means that some of us little people get noticed once in a while.  </p>
<p>As for your question, I am definetely seeing some trends that would indicate that there is a bubble forming and it may indeed be ready to pop again.  It is in no way similar to the previous bubble at the beginning of the century however.  The dynamics of the Web 2.0 sites that we are seeing are making it much easier to create a valuable service site.  For instance, we are seeing quite a few new sites that &#8220;mimic&#8221; other sites.  How many digg clones have you seen?  And isn&#8217;t Digg really just an improved(depending on your POV) version of slashdot?  I believe the investors were more cautious at the beginning, but the increased investing and funding recenly are what gives me reason to pause here.  As with any group of business, people, etc&#8230; the cream of the crop rises to the top and even if we do see another bubble pop, several of those sites will survive.  Blogging for instance will survive, as will sites like digg, delicious, and maybe even simplyhired.  </p>
<p>Obviously, I agree that diversification is an excellent reason for some of these purchases as the more diverse your portfolio, the less risk is actually felt.  Of course, ask some of the original dotcom bust investors how their diversification efforts worked. <img src='http://www.thatedeguy.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brady</title>
		<link>http://www.thatedeguy.com/archives/2006/04/fox-news-corp-buying-risk/comment-page-1#comment-583</link>
		<dc:creator>Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thatedeguy.com/archives/2006/04/fox-news-corp-buying-risk#comment-583</guid>
		<description>Oh yeah, and Rupert Murdoc should definately feel more than welcome to give me money for no apparently reason as well. I'm sure I've got at least 3 good ideas that would turn a profit if I had a million or so to throw at them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, and Rupert Murdoc should definately feel more than welcome to give me money for no apparently reason as well. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ve got at least 3 good ideas that would turn a profit if I had a million or so to throw at them.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
